MRR Kitbash a loco contest
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Quote:If you are very creative, your freelance road can be more challenging than the most difficult prototypes, but it seems far to common for people to use free-lance or especially proto-freelance as a cover for a lack of creativity/modeling skills. I admire some of Dr. Wayne's creations, Sumptors, and various other people's work in the same way I admired John Allen's...most of the locomotives are not remotely stock, but they are free-lance. I really love that sort of thing. I love looking at a locomotive and instead of saying: That's a UP engine or that's a Pennsy engine, but rather that's a Delta Lines engine or that's a Port Kelsey engine.

Hopefully someday you'll be able to look at a locomotive and say, 'Yep, she's an Ocali Creek Railway engine - apart from the obvious gorgeous Southern Green paint scheme, just look at that high headlight, the placement of the lifting injectors outside the cab, and the other distinctive details." I agree, it is harder to create a credible freelanced road. John Armstrong lamented as much in his treatise on Operation and Planning.

I suppose that's why there are so many freelanced roads mostly based on a prototype. I may pull my paint scheme right off the Tweetsie, but most of the locomotive characteristics are just a conglomeration of features I admire most. I'm not modeling the N&W or the VGN 'in disguise' as the Ocali Creek Ry, rather, I take my inspiration from these roads (but not just these two).

I think the thing that holds together a freelanced line most is the story behind it. I won't tell the OCRy's story in detail here, but there is one and it serves to hold together the operational ideas, rolling stock choices, motive power choices, setting and era, and degree of whimsy & fun. Of course the only completed portion of the line is the switching area down on Murdock's Landing (my scenicked timesaver). But you won't find covered hoppers filled with silica for glass making or chemical tank cars, or ore jimmies filled with ore for processing at the Gern plant, because they don't run on that portion of the line. Eventually they will run somewhere on the system, but not there. They are part of the character of the railroad...someday.

Anyway, I don't mean to hijack this thread (sorry! :oops: ). And now, back to your regularly scheduled thread.

Personally, I don't see how upgrading the details on my 'J' would be considered kitbashing. Perhaps they are looking for a higher degree of modification, like turning the J into a K class 4-8-2?

Galen
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#17
ocalicreek Wrote:Personally, I don't see how upgrading the details on my 'J' would be considered kitbashing. Perhaps they are looking for a higher degree of modification, like turning the J into a K class 4-8-2?

Galen

Cheers

And as for you J/K idea...I love the streamlined Ks...I strongly prefer them to the Js. The K-2s were the stremlined ones...and they were usra mountains, no? So...credibly dropping a B-man J shell onto USRA 4-8-2 would be a starting point...unfortunately, I don't have any of the key stats or pictures in front of me...

If I had my
NKP 4-6-2 completed (or even started), I'd enter it in the contest.
Michael
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Its hard to modify a modern loco, to look like a protoype. Since todays locos are built "cookie cutter" style, with maybe the headlight location being the only difference. Maybe the addition of GPS antenna, AC unit(though a lot are "standard" today) for detailing, making paint and decal for the kitbash.
Trying to get the weathering exact would be a plus.
Might be fun to enter, I just don't have the patience for getting something "Exact". What fun is that?
Torrington, Ct.
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I've thought about it, but I do not have the energy to clean up an article to do so myself. The prototype photo kills me. I was planning to submit my slug project, or the BQ23-7 projects...
Josh
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eightyeightfan1 Wrote:Its hard to modify a modern loco, to look like a protoype. Since todays locos are built "cookie cutter" style, with maybe the headlight location being the only difference. Maybe the addition of GPS antenna, AC unit(though a lot are "standard" today) for detailing, making paint and decal for the kitbash.
Trying to get the weathering exact would be a plus.
Might be fun to enter, I just don't have the patience for getting something "Exact". What fun is that?

I used to think that way, but a friend has challenged me to build a prototypically correct Cemex Gp39-2 instead of painting up a Gp38-2 to look like a Cemex loco. I'm starting with an Athearn blue box Gp60 with the standard cab, a Gp40-2 dynamic brake blister, which will get the more correct air intake from the Gp60's dynamic brake blister, and a bunch of details. I went over to his house to spend a day modeling and I spent the entire day cleaning up the frame and using styrene to extend the tank to match the prototype, as well as removing the teeth on the clips that Athearn uses to lock the body shell to the frame. I will use the couplers boxes to lock the shell to the frame and what is left of the clips will just be used as alignment pins.
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I've noticed that I didn't take any before pictures, and not enough for the contest.

I think it's a little limiting though, there should be awards for creativity... ie: the Stiezel posted earlier.
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