New Memeber....

[Sumpter250]

Inreresting. I think that's the first time I've ever seen "elephant ears" / smoke lifters, on a B&O loco.
Yes they really do change the way to loco looks.

[EM-1_7600]

Thanks guys! As for the "Elephant Ears" Yes, the B&O had some, (Only 2 locomotives), they were both in the B&O's Q-4 class, 2-8-2's..... #4403 and I believe the #4611. (No pictures exist online that I know of for the 4611, BUT they do exist for the 4403! Please see below:



I thought about it, I wanted to make something "different" and a B&O 2-8-2 with the smoke lifters was just the thing to change the looks of the IHC 2-8-2.....

I have an attachment to all the "odd" B&O loco's as they normally are overlooked and never modeled.... so.....

[Puddlejumper]

I have an attachment to all the "odd" B&O loco's as they normally are overlooked and never modeled.... so.....

Indeed! Like this Pennsy K4 on Wikipedia. You would never guess this to be a PRR loco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PRR_K4s_8212.jpg

They also had a couple with elephant ears

http://www.billspennsyphotos.com/apps/ph...d=62716209

Skyline casing

http://www.angelfire.com/film/prrpics/k41188s.JPG

and streamlined

http://www.angelfire.com/film/prrpics/fav1120.jpg

I wouldn't even know where to begin to model all these unusual K4s Pacifics.

Dave

[modelsof1900]

Really, this isn't the common look of an American engine!
We in Germany have had thousend and more such elephant eared engines. All passeneger engines of former Deutsche Reichsbahn (1925 to 1950 or 60) were equipped with smoke deflectors. In later years our engines have had smaller deflectors positioned in over half of boiler at smokebox. And this was the ordinary look of our passenger engines. But Amerikan engines?
I know the UP challenegers and the D&H engines an the NYC Niagaras. All they were seldom looking engines in my eyes with their smoke deflectors - but now also B&O engines!
No, I would like to see American engines without smoke deflectors, please!

[EM-1_7600]

I have an attachment to all the "odd" B&O loco's as they normally are overlooked and never modeled.... so.....

Indeed! Like this Pennsy K4 on Wikipedia. You would never guess this to be a PRR loco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PRR_K4s_8212.jpg

They also had a couple with elephant ears

http://www.billspennsyphotos.com/apps/ph...d=62716209

Skyline casing

http://www.angelfire.com/film/prrpics/k41188s.JPG

and streamlined

http://www.angelfire.com/film/prrpics/fav1120.jpg

I wouldn't even know where to begin to model all these unusual K4s Pacifics.

Dave

Dave,
Those are known by me as Pennsy loco's! The K-4's were streamlined to be close to the Duplex, locomotives! If I'm not mistaken, those that were streamlined was to keep a "Modern" look, as the PRR tried to keep as modern as very possible!

[EM-1_7600]

Really, this isn't the common look of an American engine!
We in Germany have had thousend and more such elephant eared engines. All passeneger engines of former Deutsche Reichsbahn (1925 to 1950 or 60) were equipped with smoke deflectors. In later years our engines have had smaller deflectors positioned in over half of boiler at smokebox. And this was the ordinary look of our passenger engines. But Amerikan engines?
I know the UP challenegers and the D&H engines an the NYC Niagaras. All they were seldom looking engines in my eyes with their smoke deflectors - but now also B&O engines!
No, I would like to see American engines without smoke deflectors, please!

modelsof1900,
Sorry, but these locomotives on the B&O were RARE to see, as there was only 2 of them on the whole railroad. The B&O's Motive Power department deemed the smoke deflectors, to expensive to add to the whole class or go any further on the whole fleet of locomotives on the system!

They were however, different looking on the B&O and made the 2-8-2's that had them, stick out as it was a different sight to see.

Thing is, its unlikely to find many of them with pictures as I only know of the one I posted, online, and the other one I know of is in the book "B&O Power" from 1964.

[modelsof1900]

John, thanks.
I think that my mean is very personally - and I love Amerikan steam engines. And so I know also that elephanz eras are very seldom realized ecceptions. And not one of my models will have such items. However because you collect and models of B&O - these exceptions should be part of your collection.
Let see us your models and also these very specific engines in future. They are part of the American steam engine history, and I think that you can meet here more of us which have never belonged from these rare engines or have seen them.

[EM-1_7600]

Bernhard,
No problem! That will probably be the only locomotive I have to have the smoke deflectors due to the rarity of them on the B&O and not one of my other modeled railroads used them so.....I model the B&O and Western Maryland in steam and I'm embarking in alittle steam under the C&O paint. so.....But thats about it.....

So its unlikely to see much of those within my train collection.

[Sumpter250]

Thanks guys! As for the "Elephant Ears" Yes, the B&O had some, (Only 2 locomotives), they were both in the B&O's Q-4 class, 2-8-2's..... #4403 and I believe the #4611. (No pictures exist online that I know of for the 4611, BUT they do exist for the 4403! Please see below:

A day when something new is learned, is always a good day !
Thank You for that picture, I went looking, and couldn't find one.
:oops: Guess I didn't dig quite deep enough.
Is that an auxiliary water car behind the tender ?
Pete

[EM-1_7600]

Thanks guys! As for the "Elephant Ears" Yes, the B&O had some, (Only 2 locomotives), they were both in the B&O's Q-4 class, 2-8-2's..... #4403 and I believe the #4611. (No pictures exist online that I know of for the 4611, BUT they do exist for the 4403! Please see below:

A day when something new is learned, is always a good day !
Thank You for that picture, I went looking, and couldn't find one.
:oops: Guess I didn't dig quite deep enough.
Is that an auxiliary water car behind the tender ?
Pete

Pete,
you have B&O Power? The book on all of the B&O motive power up to 1964? Written by Alvin Staffer.

Anyway the other 2-8-2 with the Elephant Ears is in it.....Thats the only other place i know of this! I'll have to look and see what page its on and then if at all possible I'll scan that page to add the other 2-8-2 to be online of the B&O's Elephant Eared locomotives!

Good to hear you learned something! Makes me feel good to know someone learned something from something I said or knew....

Needless to say, I done my B&O homework! :mrgreen:

As for the car behind the tender, yes thats an AUX water bottle!